Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 05:05:46 -0000
From: HRearden@profit.com ("hrearden_hr")
Subject: [libs4peace] Re: History and facts
To: libs4peace@yahoogroups.com

--- In libs4peace@y..., Travis Klein <travisk@u...> wrote: > On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, hrearden_hr wrote:
>
> > Palestinians can not become citizens.

I believe in Israel Palestinians can become citizens.

H. Rearden

In Israel Arabs are allowed > > citizenship and can vote. There are Arabs in the Parliament of
> > Israel. There are no Jews who hold a government office or
position in > > any Arab state. If the PLO and other Palestinian terrorist groups
> > have the same military power that Israel does they would use it to
> > attempt to destroy Israel.
>
> Oh, so because Israel is a democracy, that makes it ok?

I believe that it is ok for Israel to allow Arabs to become citizens and hold elective office.

H. Rearden

The US allows > drug users to vote also, but even if AZ voted to make marijuana
legal do > you think Ashcroft and crew would allow it?
>

Probably not.

H. Rearden

> > Israel is only 1% of the Middle East. Jews are from the Middle
East. > > Many of the Arab countries do not want the Jews to have any land
in > > the Middle East eventhough they are from the Middle East.
> > Think about that. Jews are from the Middle East. The Middle East
in > > part is their land. Is 1% too much?
>
> So Jews are from the Middle East? ews are from the middle east?
My head > is about to explode.
>

The point is that there are many Arabs who don't want them in the Middle East eventhough the Middle East is their homeland. Jews did not originate in North, South, or Central America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, or other lands.

H. Rearden $

> > Many North American Indians
> > originated from what became and is the U.S. In the 19th century
at > > least the U.S. government made Oklahoma Indian territory. The PLO
> > and/or so called Palestinian authority and many Arab states don't
> > think their should be any land for the Jews in the Middle East.
>
> Horray for the USA. They kill millions of N. Americans, burn their
> villages, destroy their economy, rape their women, BUT they got the
Indian > Territory. Hey HL, why is it that I can't find the Indian
Territory on > the map?

You can't find any of the Arab states that exist today on a map that was drawn before WWI. Indians today have landscalled reservations. They have their own tribal governments. In the 1980's an Indian from South Dakota was wanted by authorities in that state and he fled to the Iroquois in NY. The Iroquois allowed him to stay with them. South Dakota wanted the state of NY to arrest him and extradite him back to SD. The governor of NY (Cumo) refused to send law enforcement agents into the Iroquois land because the Iroquois unlike just about all other Indians have a unique arrangement. They are treated as if they are a soveriegn nation within the U.S. The governor took the view that he did not have the jurisdiction to send state law enforcement agents on the Iroquois land.

H. Rearden

Oh right cause the USA took it back. (Just as a side note many > tribes were forced to march to OK whose home land was hundreds
sometimes > thousands of miles away)

That is true. I have a very distant relative who was a full blooded (actually its your genes not your blood) Cherokee. I am famiure with the trail of tears and a fan of General Stand Waite who was a Cherokee who was a General in the Rebel Army. He was the last Rebel General to surrender.

H. Rearden

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